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		<title>By: paul savage</title>
		<link>http://www.eirjobs.com/news/irish-green-card-system-announced/comment-page-2/#comment-4234</link>
		<dc:creator>paul savage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 10:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With 100 comments I think I will close this post, as it&#039;s getting too long to read. If people want to continue the discussion you should go to the forum part of the site at &lt;strong&gt;http://forums.eirjobs.com/&lt;/strong&gt; and discuss the topic in the relevant area.  So if people want to discuss Green Cards in Ireland then you should continue over there.

You can also visit &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.greencard.ie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;GreenCard.ie&lt;/a&gt; and ask your questions there.

&lt;h2&gt;Thanks to everyone for their comments.&lt;h2&gt;:D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With 100 comments I think I will close this post, as it&#8217;s getting too long to read. If people want to continue the discussion you should go to the forum part of the site at <strong><a href="http://forums.eirjobs.com/" rel="nofollow">http://forums.eirjobs.com/</a></strong> and discuss the topic in the relevant area.  So if people want to discuss Green Cards in Ireland then you should continue over there.</p>
<p>You can also visit <a href="http://www.greencard.ie" rel="nofollow">GreenCard.ie</a> and ask your questions there.</p>
<h2>Thanks to everyone for their comments.</h2>
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		<title>By: patience</title>
		<link>http://www.eirjobs.com/news/irish-green-card-system-announced/comment-page-2/#comment-4233</link>
		<dc:creator>patience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 10:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Henry
I had a simirlar problem to yours. Then, I was here on a stamp 3; a dependant to my spouse. The company applied for a spousal work permit but was denied coz my spouse was then a temporarily registered doctor. (Please note for spouses of doctors you are only eligilble for spousal workpermit if yo spouse is fully registered and has a WORKPERMIT). The company then appealed by making a new  green card application. We got a call from the department informing us that because I had a stamp 3(a visitors stamp) I did not qualify for a green card. It was only after the company explained that a spousal workpermit had been turned down that they granted me the green card. I have presumed from this that spouses cannot directly apply for a green card, you only are eligble for your own workpermit when you dont qualify for spousal workpermit. A note on the conditions for eligebility for green card on the department website  states that if you are resident in the country you need to have a visa that authourises you to work, and that means only stamp 1, and stamp4. You can appeal; by re-applying for a sposal workpermit and they say the appeal takes 1-3weeks (mine did). Not the best news, but hopefully it helps you make a decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Henry<br />
I had a simirlar problem to yours. Then, I was here on a stamp 3; a dependant to my spouse. The company applied for a spousal work permit but was denied coz my spouse was then a temporarily registered doctor. (Please note for spouses of doctors you are only eligilble for spousal workpermit if yo spouse is fully registered and has a WORKPERMIT). The company then appealed by making a new  green card application. We got a call from the department informing us that because I had a stamp 3(a visitors stamp) I did not qualify for a green card. It was only after the company explained that a spousal workpermit had been turned down that they granted me the green card. I have presumed from this that spouses cannot directly apply for a green card, you only are eligble for your own workpermit when you dont qualify for spousal workpermit. A note on the conditions for eligebility for green card on the department website  states that if you are resident in the country you need to have a visa that authourises you to work, and that means only stamp 1, and stamp4. You can appeal; by re-applying for a sposal workpermit and they say the appeal takes 1-3weeks (mine did). Not the best news, but hopefully it helps you make a decision.</p>
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		<title>By: henry</title>
		<link>http://www.eirjobs.com/news/irish-green-card-system-announced/comment-page-2/#comment-4231</link>
		<dc:creator>henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 10:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, paul, I would be very grateful if you could help me on this. My wife is currently working in Ireland and I&#039;m holding a Stamp 3 spousal visa. I have got a job offer from IT company as a computer programmer which salary is Euro30K per annum and the company is in the progress of applying the green card permit for me. However, this morning I have got a letter from Dept of Ent,Trade and Employement regarding a refusal of my application giving a reason : Incorrect Status(student,visitor, etc)..It appears that Mr.Yee (that&#039;s me) is here on a Stamp 3 Spousal Visa, this immigration status precludes Mr.Yee from obtaining a Green Card. I wonder how could this happen as I don&#039;t find anywhere else saying that a person which is holding a Stamp 3 Visa is not eligle to apply for a Green Card permit.  Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, paul, I would be very grateful if you could help me on this. My wife is currently working in Ireland and I&#8217;m holding a Stamp 3 spousal visa. I have got a job offer from IT company as a computer programmer which salary is Euro30K per annum and the company is in the progress of applying the green card permit for me. However, this morning I have got a letter from Dept of Ent,Trade and Employement regarding a refusal of my application giving a reason : Incorrect Status(student,visitor, etc)..It appears that Mr.Yee (that&#8217;s me) is here on a Stamp 3 Spousal Visa, this immigration status precludes Mr.Yee from obtaining a Green Card. I wonder how could this happen as I don&#8217;t find anywhere else saying that a person which is holding a Stamp 3 Visa is not eligle to apply for a Green Card permit.  Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: paul savage</title>
		<link>http://www.eirjobs.com/news/irish-green-card-system-announced/comment-page-2/#comment-4185</link>
		<dc:creator>paul savage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 18:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;jingjing&lt;/b&gt;  : See here &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eirjobs.com/green-card/&quot; title=&quot;green card summary&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Green Card details&lt;/a&gt; for a summary and details about the waiting time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>jingjing</b>  : See here <a href="http://www.eirjobs.com/green-card/" title="green card summary" rel="nofollow">Green Card details</a> for a summary and details about the waiting time.</p>
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		<title>By: jingjing</title>
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		<dc:creator>jingjing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 21:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How long it will take for applying green card and work permit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long it will take for applying green card and work permit?</p>
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		<title>By: nazar</title>
		<link>http://www.eirjobs.com/news/irish-green-card-system-announced/comment-page-2/#comment-4130</link>
		<dc:creator>nazar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 10:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear Mr Fixer,
your advise on question one - mny thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear Mr Fixer,<br />
your advise on question one &#8211; mny thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: mr fixer</title>
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		<dc:creator>mr fixer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 10:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nazar,

my advise on question 1, i would suggest you to buy a return ticket instead of 1 way ticket. nevertheless as a malaysian, you&#039;ll be granted for a maximum of 3 months stay but the immigration officer will normally ask you this frequent question - how long you will stay here ? can i see your ticket ? so, be prepared to answer these..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nazar,</p>
<p>my advise on question 1, i would suggest you to buy a return ticket instead of 1 way ticket. nevertheless as a malaysian, you&#8217;ll be granted for a maximum of 3 months stay but the immigration officer will normally ask you this frequent question &#8211; how long you will stay here ? can i see your ticket ? so, be prepared to answer these..</p>
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		<title>By: nazar</title>
		<link>http://www.eirjobs.com/news/irish-green-card-system-announced/comment-page-2/#comment-4123</link>
		<dc:creator>nazar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 10:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
 
a) I&#039;m a Malaysian, planning to visit a family member in Dublin soon. I plan to stay in Dublin less than 3 months but still unsure on the exact date to go back. For this reason, i have not purchased any return ticket to my home country but plan to buy one when i&#039;m already in Dublin and the date is  confirmed. Will there be any problem when entering Ireland at the airport&#039;s passport counter without this return ticket?  
 
b) In relation to the above, i plan to visit other countries during my stay in Dublin; i.e. Amsterdam, Uk and etc. As a Malaysian, i do not require any visa to enter Ireland. However, is multiple entries allowed in my case? 
 
c) Say during my stay in Dublin as a visitor; i received a Green Card permit that allows me to work. Can i extend my stay to more than 3 months  and change my status from a visitor to an employee? can i still be in Ireland while doing these and start work immediately? 
 
Appreciate your advise.
 
Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>a) I&#8217;m a Malaysian, planning to visit a family member in Dublin soon. I plan to stay in Dublin less than 3 months but still unsure on the exact date to go back. For this reason, i have not purchased any return ticket to my home country but plan to buy one when i&#8217;m already in Dublin and the date is  confirmed. Will there be any problem when entering Ireland at the airport&#8217;s passport counter without this return ticket?  </p>
<p>b) In relation to the above, i plan to visit other countries during my stay in Dublin; i.e. Amsterdam, Uk and etc. As a Malaysian, i do not require any visa to enter Ireland. However, is multiple entries allowed in my case? </p>
<p>c) Say during my stay in Dublin as a visitor; i received a Green Card permit that allows me to work. Can i extend my stay to more than 3 months  and change my status from a visitor to an employee? can i still be in Ireland while doing these and start work immediately? </p>
<p>Appreciate your advise.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks katrina for your answer;
We are together for 8 months, we are both in Ireland for 1 year now. Before I was in France and she in Brazil. How long do we need to be together? where can i find these informations? Thanks for answers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks katrina for your answer;<br />
We are together for 8 months, we are both in Ireland for 1 year now. Before I was in France and she in Brazil. How long do we need to be together? where can i find these informations? Thanks for answers!</p>
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		<title>By: Katrina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katrina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Bill

Your girlfriend might be able to stay with you in Ireland as an EU family member.  This will depend upon how long you have lived together and were you lived prior to coming to Ireland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Bill</p>
<p>Your girlfriend might be able to stay with you in Ireland as an EU family member.  This will depend upon how long you have lived together and were you lived prior to coming to Ireland.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.eirjobs.com/news/irish-green-card-system-announced/comment-page-2/#comment-4038</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi everyone,
Im french, working in Ireland, my girlfriend is brazilian and working here part time because student. She has a degree in Marketing and 7 years experience, I was thinking about the green card, and we plan to get married in France next year, will it give her the right to work in Ireland? We really want to keep working in Ireland, and I start to be confused with all the process.. If you could give me some clues, I would be very grateful. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everyone,<br />
Im french, working in Ireland, my girlfriend is brazilian and working here part time because student. She has a degree in Marketing and 7 years experience, I was thinking about the green card, and we plan to get married in France next year, will it give her the right to work in Ireland? We really want to keep working in Ireland, and I start to be confused with all the process.. If you could give me some clues, I would be very grateful. Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Saif</title>
		<link>http://www.eirjobs.com/news/irish-green-card-system-announced/comment-page-2/#comment-3954</link>
		<dc:creator>Saif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 02:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a health professional and studying in Ireland. Got a fulltime job and employer-applied for greend card.As I am under student visa is there any difficulty to get green card?How to overcome that? Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a health professional and studying in Ireland. Got a fulltime job and employer-applied for greend card.As I am under student visa is there any difficulty to get green card?How to overcome that? Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: mr fixer</title>
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		<dc:creator>mr fixer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi everyone,

i just want to share my experience on getting this green card...

i sent my application on 1 june 2007 and obtained a green card permit on 7 july 2007. very fast - less than 5 weeks. it was really surprised me..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi everyone,</p>
<p>i just want to share my experience on getting this green card&#8230;</p>
<p>i sent my application on 1 june 2007 and obtained a green card permit on 7 july 2007. very fast &#8211; less than 5 weeks. it was really surprised me..</p>
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		<title>By: vikas</title>
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		<dc:creator>vikas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,Katrina,
I am confused about your comment. I just need to know..... My wife is shifting to Ireland as Registered Nurse with green Card (as she says). Do you think I can shift and get a job. pl revert asap. I am in Sales &amp; Marketing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,Katrina,<br />
I am confused about your comment. I just need to know&#8230;.. My wife is shifting to Ireland as Registered Nurse with green Card (as she says). Do you think I can shift and get a job. pl revert asap. I am in Sales &amp; Marketing.</p>
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		<title>By: ovaciklim</title>
		<link>http://www.eirjobs.com/news/irish-green-card-system-announced/comment-page-2/#comment-3860</link>
		<dc:creator>ovaciklim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 01:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone obtained a Green Card doing the paper work in order? How long did it take? Also are there any refusals? what are the reasons for the refusals? As long as the salary is above 30k, and the job is in the allowed group like software engineers, and the rest of paper work is in order, is it guarantee that green card will be issued? Any answer is appreciated!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone obtained a Green Card doing the paper work in order? How long did it take? Also are there any refusals? what are the reasons for the refusals? As long as the salary is above 30k, and the job is in the allowed group like software engineers, and the rest of paper work is in order, is it guarantee that green card will be issued? Any answer is appreciated!</p>
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		<title>By: Katrina</title>
		<link>http://www.eirjobs.com/news/irish-green-card-system-announced/comment-page-2/#comment-3844</link>
		<dc:creator>Katrina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 16:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have been reading some of your comments regarding spousal/dependant permit and some of the information written here is misleading.  For clarity a foreign national of an employment permit holder is entitled to be in Ireland (unless it is a work permit and then the family cannot cannot come for 12 months).  Once the spouse is legally resident in Ireland then the spouse can look for work. This can be any job he/she likes. Once the spouse finds work then they must make a &lt;strong&gt;spousal work permit application&lt;/strong&gt;.  These permits are specific to the job and employer.  The spouse cannot start working in that job until the permit has been issued. The current turn around time for spousal work permits is around 6 weeks. The trick is to find an employer who is prepared to offer you a job and then wait at least 6 weeks (maybe more) before you actually start work. Readers should remember that residency and a right to work are two very separate issues. I hope that clarifies the issue for some of the readers!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been reading some of your comments regarding spousal/dependant permit and some of the information written here is misleading.  For clarity a foreign national of an employment permit holder is entitled to be in Ireland (unless it is a work permit and then the family cannot cannot come for 12 months).  Once the spouse is legally resident in Ireland then the spouse can look for work. This can be any job he/she likes. Once the spouse finds work then they must make a <strong>spousal work permit application</strong>.  These permits are specific to the job and employer.  The spouse cannot start working in that job until the permit has been issued. The current turn around time for spousal work permits is around 6 weeks. The trick is to find an employer who is prepared to offer you a job and then wait at least 6 weeks (maybe more) before you actually start work. Readers should remember that residency and a right to work are two very separate issues. I hope that clarifies the issue for some of the readers!</p>
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